Discussion of Crytek's Crysis games
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All this hype about CryEngine 3 being able to run on consoles etc better be worth it. I hope this time we wont need sli or crossfire to play Very high settings. They say the Engine is optimized to a great degree so i hope this becomes a reality. My greatest disappointment about crysis was if choose to buy a gtx285 over hd4870 you would still be unable to max all the settings and get a decent frame rate. So i went with the cheaper card and will not upgrade my pc for crysis 2. It will be a decision between playing it on a PS3 or PC. I wish CryEngine 3 allows us to play very high with a single GPU. Tell me what you all think?
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Mocib wrote:
We didn't need multi-GPU setups with Crysis or Warhead in order to play on Very High.
Stop being ridiculous, people.
wtf.. mocib are you confusing high with very high... show us some proof how you did it.
Last edited by ProvidenceG (25-08-2009 08:07:36)
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ProvidenceG wrote:
Mocib wrote:
We didn't need multi-GPU setups with Crysis or Warhead in order to play on Very High.
Stop being ridiculous, people.wtf.. mocib are you confusing high with very high... show us some proof how you did it.
It's easy, it's called CCC 2.21, go check it out and even as low as LVL1, you are running Very High graphical features, and as low as LVL3, and 4, you are having a game look better than High with Very High's Graphical Features. Then try LVL5, and full post processing is turned on, and you're still running FASTER in most cases than both Very High, and Stock High, but it looks better by leaps and bounds, than Very High.
Trust me, of all people, I would know about optimizing config files.
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http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gami … 1,750.html
Crysis v1.21 on Very High, 8800 Ultra gets 26FPS average. It's playable. So no, you did not need a dual graphics solution to run it at very high back then.
But true, if you want 2560x1600, 16AA & AF with everything on very high, it's STILL not possible. But that's not the point. The point is that at least some people, who play at lower resolutions did enjoy Crysis at Very high at a decent framerate on a single GPU solution.
TBH, I've played Crysis on very high with my rig. 8800gtx, AMD64 4200+ dual core cpu and 2GB or RAM. It's certainly enjoyable and everything in there was available on launch.
(not in DX10 and Vista, but DX9 and XP using the small tweak you need to do to one of the .cfgs)
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ProvidenceG wrote:
Mocib wrote:
We didn't need multi-GPU setups with Crysis or Warhead in order to play on Very High.
Stop being ridiculous, people.wtf.. mocib are you confusing high with very high... show us some proof how you did it.
I still use a CRT monitor (Samsung SyncMaster 959NF flat screen).
I can play Crysis and Warhead just fine on Very High at 1280x960 (or lower) resolution using E6600/8800GTX/4GB/DirectX10/64-bit/0xAA. No mods used.
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to hell with all the pathetic nerdy upgrading my pc to be able to play crysis 2 on very high
PS3 for me,**** upgrading
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Wouldn't mind seeing actual screenshots of C2, since I can't really imagine the game looking that much better than Crysis Warhead. I'm sure, that if the game doesn't actually look better, it'll run better; nice and smooth optimised performance!
But if not, as said, even if the game is as big a jump graphically as Crysis was, very high on an "average" (say, 1680x1050) resolution is still possible. Perhaps with a small amount of AA. All on a single card.
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It won't be a massive leap, that's pretty much guaranteed. It hasn't been that long since Crysis and hardware hasn't improved too much.
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Mocib, you havent jumped on the CCC train yet? CHOOooo CHOOooo! All aboard!
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No, Mocib likes vanilla. And so do I, tbh. I did try it, but removed it shortly afterwards.
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why, the configuration file wasn't optimized enough for you/ or was it the Time-Of-Day used?
You do know that you can use either or, right?
Not to brag, but CCC is one of the more refined and optimized config offerings out there, I'd figure you two of all people would want to run Crysis with the perfect balance pf graphical fidelity and FPS possible?
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If you looking at 1920x1200 and lower, you can max it out on a 285 / 280 and still get good FPS. I wouldnt mess with 2560x1600 unless your running some SLI or a 295 though...
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RTsa wrote:
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-charts-q3-2008/Crysis-v1.21,750.html
Crysis v1.21 on Very High, 8800 Ultra gets 26FPS average. It's playable. So no, you did not need a dual graphics solution to run it at very high back then.
But true, if you want 2560x1600, 16AA & AF with everything on very high, it's STILL not possible. But that's not the point. The point is that at least some people, who play at lower resolutions did enjoy Crysis at Very high at a decent framerate on a single GPU solution.
TBH, I've played Crysis on very high with my rig. 8800gtx, AMD64 4200+ dual core cpu and 2GB or RAM. It's certainly enjoyable and everything in there was available on launch.
(not in DX10 and Vista, but DX9 and XP using the small tweak you need to do to one of the .cfgs)
You consider 26fps playable.. my bad. nevermind then. I see this argument wont get anywhere since i said decent frame rates was what i wanted. which means smooth with no stutter. that is usually 35-60fps. Forget i asked.
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25 FPS is playable in Crysis, yes that is a fact, it's not a mater of opinion. Why?
Heres is why: Crysis uses very effective screen and object motionblur as a standard, and with motionblur turned on, Gameplay when reaching into the lower 30's and mid 20's is not less responsive, or "stuttery" as with other modern PC games.
Baiscally the Motion Blur in Crysis facilitates for motions and actions in the game to still be and feel responsive when reaching into lower FPS levels. Pretty cool huh?
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sure..keep dreaming.
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@Cuban_Legend
I have always played Crysis without motion blur.
@ProvidenceG
Playable framerate is such a personal thing. Why are you so aggravated by this? I am baffled.
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I play Crysis, Crysis Warhead, and Crysis Wars all on Very High with no mods. Also anything over 20 fps I would say is still playable because my older PC plays the original Crysis on medium settings at around 18ish fps and it was pretty smooth.
Last edited by Fugitmdup (25-08-2009 12:01:57)
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Mocib wrote:
@Cuban_Legend
I have always played Crysis without motion blur.
@ProvidenceG
Playable framerate is such a personal thing. Why are you so aggravated by this? I am baffled.
Im not. In my experience above 30fps is good. Below that and my eyes start to twitch and ache. Like you said its a personal thing. Its how much a person can tolerate. I'll leave it at that.
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ProvidenceG wrote:
sure..keep dreaming.
I would be dreaming if it wasn't a fact that Motion blur when done correctly can make lower FPS gameplay keep it's smoothness and playability when compared to Higher FPS's in the same scenario.
No offense ProvidenceG, but I have the feeling that your opinion, even though they are rightfully yours, are contradictory to both the general consensus, and the factual knowledge base on the subject at hand, no matter how Off-Topic to this thread it may be.
Here's something for you: Full Motion Films run at 24 FPS. Even today, the latest in Bluray full 1080p Video and 35MM Hollywood Film Technology (what is used to record those films), Runs at 24 FPS. Why? Because the natural Motion blur facilitates that FPS to be seen as smooth and not "stuttery" to the human eye.
This is the same case with Crysis. And it's implementation of MotionBlur when the gameplay reaches Sub 30's in FPS.
@ Mocib, Motionblur aside, why only vanilla Crysis with no mods? Or better yet, not even config tweaks or performance optimizations, surely there can be no negative side to receiving a higher Graphical setting and draw distances, Smoother gameplay during Action, optimized Shadow Maps with sharper and more realistic qualities extending LODs of Shadows by 3-4x stock, among other optimizations making the loss of some settings as subtle as possible, all this... at an alarminly Higher FPS than the Stock variant of the Graphical Setting. Balancing Fidelity with FPS....
I'd just like to understand your Reasoning and train of thought is all.
Last edited by Cuban_Legend (25-08-2009 12:13:45)
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